Thursday, May 29, 2008

Gay make out in the media

So, my sister asked this question: What kind of behavior is appropriate and useful when you are faced with behavior in the media you believe is immoral?

First, we must acknowledge that there are a large number of people who are more liberal in this issue, and consider your and my position on homosexuality to be barbaric, ignorant, and akin to the racism of the early 1900's. Considering the distance between the two positions, it is easy for offense, misunderstanding and dismissal to limit the value of any interaction between the two. An extreme reaction to a television program causes a few different problems when there are people who disagree with you.
  1. It reinforces the idea that people who think homosexuality is immoral are ignorant, and have come to their position hastily, without good judgement.
  2. Your reaction implies that no one should be ok with what they are seeing, so even those who agree with your premise, but see no harm in viewing the program are told that they are wrong.
  3. Discussion of the topic is discouraged by such extreme reactions, so no common ground can be found.
What is important to realize is that rational, moral people can come to different conclusions when they have different basic principles. Our basic principles include a belief in God, and in scripture, including scripture outlawing homosexual relations. They also include belief that the purpose of family is to provide safe places for children to grow, learn and develop faith. From there, you determine that the practice of homosexuality is damaging to both individuals and societies. However, starting from a different set of principles, people can come to a different conclusion. So instead of assuming everyone shares your conclusions, or even discussing your conclusions, we should discuss our principles.

Finally, I think that Dad's most recent article has something to offer to the discussion.

When I was a kid, the rules for the Sabbath day made perfect sense. You couldn’t attend sporting events, but you watch them on television. You couldn’t go furniture shopping, but you could go with the Priests Quorum Advisor to buy doughnuts between Priesthood and Sunday School. Today the rules seem less logical. You can play catch in the back yard with your brother, but you can’t play catch in the front yard with your friend. You can stop and help a stranger who has run out of gas, but if you run out of gas, you have to walk home.
Church standards change because our understanding of the underlying principles changes and grows, and because the world in which we live requires different standards. We in the church expect those out of the church to respect the standards we have set for ourselves. Sometimes inside the church, we forget to respect that my standards are not the standards. When the media shows two girls making out, it may offend your senses. It definitely is not the lifestyle our church approves of. And yet, it is a lifestyle, and it is an important debate going on in our country right now. Should we ban any public display of affection between homosexual couples? Should we ban the media from discussing the issue? Should we remove ourselves from the public debate? I think it's conceivable to come to the conclusion that it's ok to view a program with that kind of content. I think it's also conceivable to come to the opposite conclusion, but both are personal decisions, and should be respected.

4 comments:

Unknown said...

Good answer. I know that you are trying to reach out to both sides of the issue here. But, what about you personally? (Basically, how do you decide what TV and movies are good to watch and what aren't...what would you like ClearPlay to cut for you?)

What would you do if your kids were watching the show with you? Would you watch it again?

Why? Why not?

John said...

There are a few things I avoid in media:
1. swearing. I find swearing jarring. When I hear it, it kicks me out of the story that I am watching.
2. nudity/sex. There's so little need for these in a story. Even in a story about sex, you don't need to show sex. Maybe some subjects need to, but I don't really want to learn about those subjects. For an example of about the limit of my tolerance for this category, see The Illusionist.
3. gore. This category doesn't bother me as much, but I limit it as a matter of obedience.

I'm pretty much ok with anything else, so long as its content is justified by its level of art. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but I just know that when a morally sensitive subject is depicted, I want them to leave it to me as the viewer to make judgements. The media can pose questions, but I get to answer them. I think it's ok for them to show something controversial, or something I disagree with, so long as they don't assume that they're right.

Those are my personal standards, but obviously, for children, I have different standards. Children are easily brainwashed until some indeterminate age between 16 and 24. They should be protected from seeing things that later in life they may decide they don't want to see, or things that may subtly teach them that wrong things are right. You can't unring the bell.

Unknown said...

I like that. I hope you don't mind that I will be using your standards from now on. Maybe I haven't thought about it enough...but I just generally avoid gory movies out of distaste, sexy movies out of discomfort and...well... swearing is usually controlled by the movie rating. But I guess I just was jarred a little bit of where my line should be after watching that TV show. And the realization of how gullible children are..well, that makes sense too. Thanks big brother for being the best :)

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